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    <description>CX without the BS is a refreshingly honest and engaging podcast that dives deep into the world of Customer Experience (CX). Hosted by industry veterans Tom Milligan and Brian Nichols, the show aims to cut through the jargon and hype to deliver real, actionable insights for CX professionals and business leaders.
Each episode features candid conversations with CX experts, thought leaders, and practitioners who share their experiences, challenges, and successes in the field. The hosts and guests discuss a wide range of topics, from emerging technologies like AI and automation to the human elements of empathy, creativity, and problem-solving that are essential to delivering exceptional customer experiences.
What sets CX without the BS apart is its commitment to authenticity and practicality. Tom and Brian aren't afraid to call out the "BS" in the industry - the buzzwords, the fads, and the overhyped solutions that don't deliver real value. Instead, they focus on strategies and tactics that have been proven to work in the real world, drawing on their own extensive experience as well as the insights of their guests.
Whether you're a seasoned CX professional or just starting out in the field, CX without the BS offers valuable perspectives and actionable advice to help you navigate the complex and ever-changing landscape of customer experience. With its engaging hosts, expert guests, and no-nonsense approach, this podcast is a must-listen for anyone who wants to stay ahead of the curve and deliver exceptional experiences to their customers.
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    <itunes:subtitle>CX without the BS is a no-nonsense podcast that cuts through the jargon to deliver real insights into the Customer Experience (CX) industry. Each episode features candid conversations with industry experts, focusing on practical solutions and honest discussions about the latest trends and challenges in CX.</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Brian Nichols</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>CX without the BS is a refreshingly honest and engaging podcast that dives deep into the world of Customer Experience (CX). Hosted by industry veterans Tom Milligan and Brian Nichols, the show aims to cut through the jargon and hype to deliver real, actionable insights for CX professionals and business leaders.
Each episode features candid conversations with CX experts, thought leaders, and practitioners who share their experiences, challenges, and successes in the field. The hosts and guests discuss a wide range of topics, from emerging technologies like AI and automation to the human elements of empathy, creativity, and problem-solving that are essential to delivering exceptional customer experiences.
What sets CX without the BS apart is its commitment to authenticity and practicality. Tom and Brian aren't afraid to call out the "BS" in the industry - the buzzwords, the fads, and the overhyped solutions that don't deliver real value. Instead, they focus on strategies and tactics that have been proven to work in the real world, drawing on their own extensive experience as well as the insights of their guests.
Whether you're a seasoned CX professional or just starting out in the field, CX without the BS offers valuable perspectives and actionable advice to help you navigate the complex and ever-changing landscape of customer experience. With its engaging hosts, expert guests, and no-nonsense approach, this podcast is a must-listen for anyone who wants to stay ahead of the curve and deliver exceptional experiences to their customers.
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  <title>Business Phone System NIGHTMARE: Why Vendors Are Killing Their Own Deals</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>UCaaS vendors spent a fortune building a moat around their pricing — and now they're spending another fortune trying to lure buyers across it.
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  <description>Brian Nichols exposes why buying a business phone system in 2026 is nearly impossible and why UCaaS vendors are sabotaging their own sales process. With 49% of B2B buyers demanding transparent pricing and 61% preferring to purchase without ever talking to a sales rep, the unified communications industry is facing a customer experience crisis it created. Brian breaks down the broken buying journey — from hidden pricing and gated demos to a channel ecosystem drowning in middlemen — and reveals why the average B2B conversion rate sits at a dismal 1.8%.
This episode exposes the uncomfortable truth that UCaaS vendors are spending millions on AI tools and marketing automation to re-engage the exact same leads they drove away with their own buying process. Brian delivers a four-part prescription for fixing B2B customer experience — from pricing transparency to respecting the buyer's timeline — and explains why the companies that simply make it easy to buy are the ones that will dominate. If you've ever tried to purchase business technology and wanted to pull your hair out, you need to hear this.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro: You Ever Try to Buy a Phone System?
1:00 - The Buying Journey From Hell
3:00 - The Channel's Dirty Little Secret
5:00 - Vendors Made This Hard ON PURPOSE
8:00 - This Is a CX Problem Not a Sales Problem
12:00 - The Invisible Deals You're Losing
15:00 - The 4-Part Prescription to Fix It 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Brian Nichols exposes why buying a business phone system in 2026 is nearly impossible and why UCaaS vendors are sabotaging their own sales process. With 49% of B2B buyers demanding transparent pricing and 61% preferring to purchase without ever talking to a sales rep, the unified communications industry is facing a customer experience crisis it created. Brian breaks down the broken buying journey — from hidden pricing and gated demos to a channel ecosystem drowning in middlemen — and reveals why the average B2B conversion rate sits at a dismal 1.8%.</p>

<p>This episode exposes the uncomfortable truth that UCaaS vendors are spending millions on AI tools and marketing automation to re-engage the exact same leads they drove away with their own buying process. Brian delivers a four-part prescription for fixing B2B customer experience — from pricing transparency to respecting the buyer&#39;s timeline — and explains why the companies that simply make it easy to buy are the ones that will dominate. If you&#39;ve ever tried to purchase business technology and wanted to pull your hair out, you need to hear this.</p>

<p>Chapters:<br>
0:00 - Intro: You Ever Try to Buy a Phone System?<br>
1:00 - The Buying Journey From Hell<br>
3:00 - The Channel&#39;s Dirty Little Secret<br>
5:00 - Vendors Made This Hard ON PURPOSE<br>
8:00 - This Is a CX Problem Not a Sales Problem<br>
12:00 - The Invisible Deals You&#39;re Losing<br>
15:00 - The 4-Part Prescription to Fix It</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Brian Nichols exposes why buying a business phone system in 2026 is nearly impossible and why UCaaS vendors are sabotaging their own sales process. With 49% of B2B buyers demanding transparent pricing and 61% preferring to purchase without ever talking to a sales rep, the unified communications industry is facing a customer experience crisis it created. Brian breaks down the broken buying journey — from hidden pricing and gated demos to a channel ecosystem drowning in middlemen — and reveals why the average B2B conversion rate sits at a dismal 1.8%.</p>

<p>This episode exposes the uncomfortable truth that UCaaS vendors are spending millions on AI tools and marketing automation to re-engage the exact same leads they drove away with their own buying process. Brian delivers a four-part prescription for fixing B2B customer experience — from pricing transparency to respecting the buyer&#39;s timeline — and explains why the companies that simply make it easy to buy are the ones that will dominate. If you&#39;ve ever tried to purchase business technology and wanted to pull your hair out, you need to hear this.</p>

<p>Chapters:<br>
0:00 - Intro: You Ever Try to Buy a Phone System?<br>
1:00 - The Buying Journey From Hell<br>
3:00 - The Channel&#39;s Dirty Little Secret<br>
5:00 - Vendors Made This Hard ON PURPOSE<br>
8:00 - This Is a CX Problem Not a Sales Problem<br>
12:00 - The Invisible Deals You&#39;re Losing<br>
15:00 - The 4-Part Prescription to Fix It</p>]]>
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  <title>How to Make Customers LOVE Your Call Center</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Charlie Newark-French, CEO of Sharpen, discusses how practical AI and innovative solutions are transforming the contact center industry to create customer experiences that people love (or at least don't hate as much).
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  <itunes:duration>48:36</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Are you tired of the endless marketing fluff and empty promises in the CX industry? Join us for a no-nonsense conversation on "CX Without the BS" as we dive deep into the real issues and solutions in the contact center world. In this episode, Brian Nichols and Tom Milligan sit down with Charlie Newark-French, CEO of SharpenCX, to cut through the noise and get to the heart of what truly matters in customer experience. If you're looking for genuine insights and practical advice, this is the episode you can't afford to miss!
Charlie Newark-French brings a wealth of experience from his roles in UCaaS, CCaaS, and AI, making him the perfect guest to discuss the future of contact centers. From his early days as a venture capitalist investing in RingCentral to his leadership roles at Fuse and HyperScience, Charlie has seen it all. Now, as the CEO of SharpenCX, he's on a mission to revolutionize the industry with innovative, user-friendly AI solutions tailored for the SMB market. Discover how SharpenCX is setting new standards and why Charlie believes the contact center of tomorrow will be one that people love—or at least don't hate as much.
In this episode, we tackle the big questions: _What does the contact center of tomorrow look like? _How can AI be used effectively without falling into the trap of overhyped marketing? Charlie shares his vision for a future where contact centers are not just cost centers but valuable assets that enhance customer satisfaction and loyalty. Learn about the three key trends driving this transformation: the move to the cloud, the rise of digital channels, and the integration of automation and AI.
But it's not all tech talk. We also get personal with Charlie, exploring his journey from South London to New York City and his passion for making a real impact in the CX space. Hear firsthand how his experiences have shaped his approach to leadership and innovation. Plus, get a sneak peek into the unique culture at SharpenCX and why it's a company built on authenticity and real results, not just buzzwords.
Don't miss out on this engaging and informative episode of "CX Without the BS." Whether you're a CX professional, a business leader, or just curious about the future of customer service, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways. Hit that subscribe button, ring the notification bell, and join us as we strip away the BS and get real about customer experience. 
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Are you tired of the endless marketing fluff and empty promises in the CX industry?</em></strong> Join us for a no-nonsense conversation on &quot;<strong>CX Without the BS</strong>&quot; as we dive deep into the real issues and solutions in the contact center world. In this episode, Brian Nichols and Tom Milligan sit down with Charlie Newark-French, CEO of SharpenCX, to cut through the noise and get to the heart of what truly matters in customer experience. If you&#39;re looking for genuine insights and practical advice, this is the episode you can&#39;t afford to miss!</p>

<p>Charlie Newark-French brings a wealth of experience from his roles in UCaaS, CCaaS, and AI, making him the perfect guest to discuss the future of contact centers. From his early days as a venture capitalist investing in RingCentral to his leadership roles at Fuse and HyperScience, Charlie has seen it all. Now, as the CEO of SharpenCX, he&#39;s on a mission to revolutionize the industry with innovative, user-friendly AI solutions tailored for the SMB market. Discover how SharpenCX is setting new standards and why Charlie believes the contact center of tomorrow will be one that people love—or at least don&#39;t hate as much.</p>

<p>In this episode, we tackle the big questions: <strong>_What does the contact center of tomorrow look like? _</strong>How can AI be used effectively without falling into the trap of overhyped marketing? Charlie shares his vision for a future where contact centers are not just cost centers but valuable assets that enhance customer satisfaction and loyalty. Learn about the three key trends driving this transformation: the move to the cloud, the rise of digital channels, and the integration of automation and AI.</p>

<p>But it&#39;s not all tech talk. We also get personal with Charlie, exploring his journey from South London to New York City and his passion for making a real impact in the CX space. Hear firsthand how his experiences have shaped his approach to leadership and innovation. Plus, get a sneak peek into the unique culture at SharpenCX and why it&#39;s a company built on authenticity and real results, not just buzzwords.</p>

<p>Don&#39;t miss out on this engaging and informative episode of &quot;CX Without the BS.&quot; Whether you&#39;re a CX professional, a business leader, or just curious about the future of customer service, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways. Hit that subscribe button, ring the notification bell, and join us as we strip away the BS and get real about customer experience.</p>]]>
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<p>Charlie Newark-French brings a wealth of experience from his roles in UCaaS, CCaaS, and AI, making him the perfect guest to discuss the future of contact centers. From his early days as a venture capitalist investing in RingCentral to his leadership roles at Fuse and HyperScience, Charlie has seen it all. Now, as the CEO of SharpenCX, he&#39;s on a mission to revolutionize the industry with innovative, user-friendly AI solutions tailored for the SMB market. Discover how SharpenCX is setting new standards and why Charlie believes the contact center of tomorrow will be one that people love—or at least don&#39;t hate as much.</p>

<p>In this episode, we tackle the big questions: <strong>_What does the contact center of tomorrow look like? _</strong>How can AI be used effectively without falling into the trap of overhyped marketing? Charlie shares his vision for a future where contact centers are not just cost centers but valuable assets that enhance customer satisfaction and loyalty. Learn about the three key trends driving this transformation: the move to the cloud, the rise of digital channels, and the integration of automation and AI.</p>

<p>But it&#39;s not all tech talk. We also get personal with Charlie, exploring his journey from South London to New York City and his passion for making a real impact in the CX space. Hear firsthand how his experiences have shaped his approach to leadership and innovation. Plus, get a sneak peek into the unique culture at SharpenCX and why it&#39;s a company built on authenticity and real results, not just buzzwords.</p>

<p>Don&#39;t miss out on this engaging and informative episode of &quot;CX Without the BS.&quot; Whether you&#39;re a CX professional, a business leader, or just curious about the future of customer service, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways. Hit that subscribe button, ring the notification bell, and join us as we strip away the BS and get real about customer experience.</p>]]>
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  <title>The CX Dilemma: To AI or Not to AI</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2024 16:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Brian Nichols</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this inaugural episode of "CX Without the BS," industry veteran Michael Del Signore shares his insights on the transformative impact of COVID-19 on the customer experience (CX) industry, highlighting the importance of a human-centered approach to technology adoption and the need to separate fact from fiction in the hype surrounding AI and automation.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>44:56</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Are you tired of the BS in the CX industry? Join Tom Milligan and Brian Nichols as they cut through the noise and get real with industry experts on CX without the BS. In this inaugural episode, they sit down with Michael Del Signore, a 30-year veteran of the CX world who's worked with big names like JP Morgan Chase, MoneyGram International, and Bank of America. But what makes Michael stand out in an industry full of buzzwords and empty promises?
Discover how Michael's unique perspective, shaped by his experience on the client side, helps him navigate the ever-changing landscape of CX. From the rise of AI to the challenges of moving to the cloud, Michael shares his insights on how companies can successfully adapt to new technologies without losing sight of what really matters: the customer.
But it's not all serious business on CX Without the BS. Get to know the man behind the insights as Michael shares his passion for powerlifting and bodybuilding, and learn how he balances his dedication to fitness with his commitment to his family and career.
Whether you're a seasoned CX professional or just starting out in the field, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. From the importance of taking a "crawl, walk, run" approach to implementing new technologies, to the dangers of pushing AI on customers who aren't ready for it, Michael's advice is grounded in real-world experience and a deep understanding of what it takes to succeed in CX.
So grab a cup of coffee (or a protein shake, if you're feeling inspired by Michael's fitness routine) and join Tom, Brian, and Michael for an engaging, informative, and BS-free conversation about the world of CX. 
Don't forget to like, review, and subscribe to CX Without the BS wherever you get your podcasts, and join the conversation on LinkedIn to share your own experiences and insights on navigating the world of customer experience! 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Are you tired of the BS in the CX industry? Join Tom Milligan and Brian Nichols as they cut through the noise and get real with industry experts on CX without the BS. In this inaugural episode, they sit down with Michael Del Signore, a 30-year veteran of the CX world who&#39;s worked with big names like JP Morgan Chase, MoneyGram International, and Bank of America. But what makes Michael stand out in an industry full of buzzwords and empty promises?</p>

<p>Discover how Michael&#39;s unique perspective, shaped by his experience on the client side, helps him navigate the ever-changing landscape of CX. From the rise of AI to the challenges of moving to the cloud, Michael shares his insights on how companies can successfully adapt to new technologies without losing sight of what really matters: the customer.</p>

<p>But it&#39;s not all serious business on CX Without the BS. Get to know the man behind the insights as Michael shares his passion for powerlifting and bodybuilding, and learn how he balances his dedication to fitness with his commitment to his family and career.</p>

<p>Whether you&#39;re a seasoned CX professional or just starting out in the field, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. From the importance of taking a &quot;crawl, walk, run&quot; approach to implementing new technologies, to the dangers of pushing AI on customers who aren&#39;t ready for it, Michael&#39;s advice is grounded in real-world experience and a deep understanding of what it takes to succeed in CX.</p>

<p>So grab a cup of coffee (or a protein shake, if you&#39;re feeling inspired by Michael&#39;s fitness routine) and join Tom, Brian, and Michael for an engaging, informative, and BS-free conversation about the world of CX. </p>

<p>Don&#39;t forget to like, review, and subscribe to CX Without the BS wherever you get your podcasts, and join the conversation on LinkedIn to share your own experiences and insights on navigating the world of customer experience!</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Are you tired of the BS in the CX industry? Join Tom Milligan and Brian Nichols as they cut through the noise and get real with industry experts on CX without the BS. In this inaugural episode, they sit down with Michael Del Signore, a 30-year veteran of the CX world who&#39;s worked with big names like JP Morgan Chase, MoneyGram International, and Bank of America. But what makes Michael stand out in an industry full of buzzwords and empty promises?</p>

<p>Discover how Michael&#39;s unique perspective, shaped by his experience on the client side, helps him navigate the ever-changing landscape of CX. From the rise of AI to the challenges of moving to the cloud, Michael shares his insights on how companies can successfully adapt to new technologies without losing sight of what really matters: the customer.</p>

<p>But it&#39;s not all serious business on CX Without the BS. Get to know the man behind the insights as Michael shares his passion for powerlifting and bodybuilding, and learn how he balances his dedication to fitness with his commitment to his family and career.</p>

<p>Whether you&#39;re a seasoned CX professional or just starting out in the field, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. From the importance of taking a &quot;crawl, walk, run&quot; approach to implementing new technologies, to the dangers of pushing AI on customers who aren&#39;t ready for it, Michael&#39;s advice is grounded in real-world experience and a deep understanding of what it takes to succeed in CX.</p>

<p>So grab a cup of coffee (or a protein shake, if you&#39;re feeling inspired by Michael&#39;s fitness routine) and join Tom, Brian, and Michael for an engaging, informative, and BS-free conversation about the world of CX. </p>

<p>Don&#39;t forget to like, review, and subscribe to CX Without the BS wherever you get your podcasts, and join the conversation on LinkedIn to share your own experiences and insights on navigating the world of customer experience!</p>]]>
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