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  <title>Channel Partners 2026 REVIEW | The Half-Empty Room And What It Told Me About The Channel</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>My honest review of Channel Partners 2026 - Robert Irvine keynote, a half-empty room, and every reason the Old Guard channel model just cracked wide open in Vegas.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Brian Nichols reviews Channel Partners 2026 and reveals why the biggest technology channel event of the year felt half-empty - and what that means for Technology Advisors, vendors, and TSDs heading into the rest of the year. This Channel Partners Conference &amp;amp; Expo review covers everything from the Robert Irvine keynote at The Venetian in Las Vegas, to the quieter expo hall with 350+ vendors, to the honest feedback from advisors and PDMs who said the real value had already moved off-campus. Brian breaks down what worked, what didn't, and why TSD events like Telarus Partner Summit (1,800+ attendees) and AVANT Special Forces are now pulling advisors away from the flagship Vegas show. Plus the brutal trade show economics - 94% of B2B marketers can't convert event leads, and only 14% of Fortune 500 companies see real ROI on trade show spend.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We expose the reality of what Channel Partners 2026 actually delivered versus what it promised - and why the Old Guard "massive booth equals channel wins" model is quietly falling apart. You need to hear this honest blueprint for how Technology Advisors should pick their 2026 events, how vendors should be rethinking their $250,000 booth checks, and what every PDM should be fighting for internally if they want their partners to actually produce. This is the Channel Partners review you won't get from the sponsored recap posts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;CHAPTERS:&lt;br&gt;
0:00 - Intro: The Half-Empty Robert Irvine Keynote&lt;br&gt;
0:49 - First Impressions: What Channel Partners 2026 Felt Like&lt;br&gt;
2:24 - The Expo Floor Review: Smaller, Quieter, Flatter&lt;br&gt;
4:07 - Where The Real Value Actually Happened (The BS Vendors Keep Selling)&lt;br&gt;
6:34 - The Numbers Behind The Decline&lt;br&gt;
9:09 - TSD Summits vs Channel Partners: The Honest Comparison&lt;br&gt;
11:23 - The MDF Trap &amp;amp; The Fishing Boat With No Bait&lt;br&gt;
13:51 - The 2026 Channel Prescription&lt;br&gt;
17:57 - Final Verdict: The Room That's Quietly Moving Somewhere Else&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sources &amp;amp; References From This Review:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Channel Partners Conference &amp;amp; Expo 2026 Official Announcement: &lt;a href="https://channelpartnersconference.com/article/channel-partners-conference-expomsp-summit-2026-sets-agenda-for-next-era-of-the-technology-channel/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://channelpartnersconference.com/article/channel-partners-conference-expomsp-summit-2026-sets-agenda-for-next-era-of-the-technology-channel/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Channel Partners Conference &amp;amp; Expo Main Site: &lt;a href="https://channelpartnersconference.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://channelpartnersconference.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Channel Partners Sponsor &amp;amp; Exhibit Opportunities: &lt;a href="https://channelpartnersconference.com/why-exhibit/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://channelpartnersconference.com/why-exhibit/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Cvent - 47 Trade Show Statistics Shaping 2025 and Beyond: &lt;a href="https://www.cvent.com/en/blog/events/trade-show-statistics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.cvent.com/en/blog/events/trade-show-statistics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Giant Printing - 2025 Trade Show Statistics: &lt;a href="https://giantprinting.com/trade-show-statistics/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://giantprinting.com/trade-show-statistics/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Trade Show Labs - 150+ Trade Show Statistics for 2026: &lt;a href="https://www.tradeshowlabs.com/blog/trade-show-stats" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.tradeshowlabs.com/blog/trade-show-stats&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Telarus Partner Summit 2025 Recap: &lt;a href="https://www.telarus.com/news/technology-advisors-take-center-stage-at-telarus-partner-summit-2025/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.telarus.com/news/technology-advisors-take-center-stage-at-telarus-partner-summit-2025/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
SIPPIO - Telarus Partner Summit 2025: &lt;a href="https://www.sippio.io/event/telarus-partner-summit-2025/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.sippio.io/event/telarus-partner-summit-2025/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
CBTS - AVANT Special Forces Summit 2025: &lt;a href="https://www.cbts.com/events/avant-special-forces-summit-sept-15-18-2025/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.cbts.com/events/avant-special-forces-summit-sept-15-18-2025/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Channel Dive - Top Channel Conferences in 2026: &lt;a href="https://www.channeldive.com/news/top-channel-partner-conferences-2026/806165/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.channeldive.com/news/top-channel-partner-conferences-2026/806165/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Intelligent Tech Channels - What Do Channel Partners Really Want From Vendors in 2026: &lt;a href="https://www.intelligenttechchannels.com/2025/12/12/what-do-channel-partners-really-want-from-vendors-in-2026/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.intelligenttechchannels.com/2025/12/12/what-do-channel-partners-really-want-from-vendors-in-2026/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Brian Nichols reviews Channel Partners 2026 and reveals why the biggest technology channel event of the year felt half-empty - and what that means for Technology Advisors, vendors, and TSDs heading into the rest of the year. This Channel Partners Conference &amp; Expo review covers everything from the Robert Irvine keynote at The Venetian in Las Vegas, to the quieter expo hall with 350+ vendors, to the honest feedback from advisors and PDMs who said the real value had already moved off-campus. Brian breaks down what worked, what didn't, and why TSD events like Telarus Partner Summit (1,800+ attendees) and AVANT Special Forces are now pulling advisors away from the flagship Vegas show. Plus the brutal trade show economics - 94% of B2B marketers can't convert event leads, and only 14% of Fortune 500 companies see real ROI on trade show spend.</p>

<p>We expose the reality of what Channel Partners 2026 actually delivered versus what it promised - and why the Old Guard "massive booth equals channel wins" model is quietly falling apart. You need to hear this honest blueprint for how Technology Advisors should pick their 2026 events, how vendors should be rethinking their $250,000 booth checks, and what every PDM should be fighting for internally if they want their partners to actually produce. This is the Channel Partners review you won't get from the sponsored recap posts.</p>

<p>CHAPTERS:<br>
0:00 - Intro: The Half-Empty Robert Irvine Keynote<br>
0:49 - First Impressions: What Channel Partners 2026 Felt Like<br>
2:24 - The Expo Floor Review: Smaller, Quieter, Flatter<br>
4:07 - Where The Real Value Actually Happened (The BS Vendors Keep Selling)<br>
6:34 - The Numbers Behind The Decline<br>
9:09 - TSD Summits vs Channel Partners: The Honest Comparison<br>
11:23 - The MDF Trap &amp; The Fishing Boat With No Bait<br>
13:51 - The 2026 Channel Prescription<br>
17:57 - Final Verdict: The Room That's Quietly Moving Somewhere Else</p>

<p>Sources &amp; References From This Review:</p>

<p>Channel Partners Conference &amp; Expo 2026 Official Announcement: <a href="https://channelpartnersconference.com/article/channel-partners-conference-expomsp-summit-2026-sets-agenda-for-next-era-of-the-technology-channel/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://channelpartnersconference.com/article/channel-partners-conference-expomsp-summit-2026-sets-agenda-for-next-era-of-the-technology-channel/</a><br>
Channel Partners Conference &amp; Expo Main Site: <a href="https://channelpartnersconference.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://channelpartnersconference.com/</a><br>
Channel Partners Sponsor &amp; Exhibit Opportunities: <a href="https://channelpartnersconference.com/why-exhibit/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://channelpartnersconference.com/why-exhibit/</a><br>
Cvent - 47 Trade Show Statistics Shaping 2025 and Beyond: <a href="https://www.cvent.com/en/blog/events/trade-show-statistics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.cvent.com/en/blog/events/trade-show-statistics</a><br>
Giant Printing - 2025 Trade Show Statistics: <a href="https://giantprinting.com/trade-show-statistics/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://giantprinting.com/trade-show-statistics/</a><br>
Trade Show Labs - 150+ Trade Show Statistics for 2026: <a href="https://www.tradeshowlabs.com/blog/trade-show-stats" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.tradeshowlabs.com/blog/trade-show-stats</a><br>
Telarus Partner Summit 2025 Recap: <a href="https://www.telarus.com/news/technology-advisors-take-center-stage-at-telarus-partner-summit-2025/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.telarus.com/news/technology-advisors-take-center-stage-at-telarus-partner-summit-2025/</a><br>
SIPPIO - Telarus Partner Summit 2025: <a href="https://www.sippio.io/event/telarus-partner-summit-2025/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.sippio.io/event/telarus-partner-summit-2025/</a><br>
CBTS - AVANT Special Forces Summit 2025: <a href="https://www.cbts.com/events/avant-special-forces-summit-sept-15-18-2025/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.cbts.com/events/avant-special-forces-summit-sept-15-18-2025/</a><br>
Channel Dive - Top Channel Conferences in 2026: <a href="https://www.channeldive.com/news/top-channel-partner-conferences-2026/806165/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.channeldive.com/news/top-channel-partner-conferences-2026/806165/</a><br>
Intelligent Tech Channels - What Do Channel Partners Really Want From Vendors in 2026: <a href="https://www.intelligenttechchannels.com/2025/12/12/what-do-channel-partners-really-want-from-vendors-in-2026/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.intelligenttechchannels.com/2025/12/12/what-do-channel-partners-really-want-from-vendors-in-2026/</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Brian Nichols reviews Channel Partners 2026 and reveals why the biggest technology channel event of the year felt half-empty - and what that means for Technology Advisors, vendors, and TSDs heading into the rest of the year. This Channel Partners Conference &amp; Expo review covers everything from the Robert Irvine keynote at The Venetian in Las Vegas, to the quieter expo hall with 350+ vendors, to the honest feedback from advisors and PDMs who said the real value had already moved off-campus. Brian breaks down what worked, what didn't, and why TSD events like Telarus Partner Summit (1,800+ attendees) and AVANT Special Forces are now pulling advisors away from the flagship Vegas show. Plus the brutal trade show economics - 94% of B2B marketers can't convert event leads, and only 14% of Fortune 500 companies see real ROI on trade show spend.</p>

<p>We expose the reality of what Channel Partners 2026 actually delivered versus what it promised - and why the Old Guard "massive booth equals channel wins" model is quietly falling apart. You need to hear this honest blueprint for how Technology Advisors should pick their 2026 events, how vendors should be rethinking their $250,000 booth checks, and what every PDM should be fighting for internally if they want their partners to actually produce. This is the Channel Partners review you won't get from the sponsored recap posts.</p>

<p>CHAPTERS:<br>
0:00 - Intro: The Half-Empty Robert Irvine Keynote<br>
0:49 - First Impressions: What Channel Partners 2026 Felt Like<br>
2:24 - The Expo Floor Review: Smaller, Quieter, Flatter<br>
4:07 - Where The Real Value Actually Happened (The BS Vendors Keep Selling)<br>
6:34 - The Numbers Behind The Decline<br>
9:09 - TSD Summits vs Channel Partners: The Honest Comparison<br>
11:23 - The MDF Trap &amp; The Fishing Boat With No Bait<br>
13:51 - The 2026 Channel Prescription<br>
17:57 - Final Verdict: The Room That's Quietly Moving Somewhere Else</p>

<p>Sources &amp; References From This Review:</p>

<p>Channel Partners Conference &amp; Expo 2026 Official Announcement: <a href="https://channelpartnersconference.com/article/channel-partners-conference-expomsp-summit-2026-sets-agenda-for-next-era-of-the-technology-channel/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://channelpartnersconference.com/article/channel-partners-conference-expomsp-summit-2026-sets-agenda-for-next-era-of-the-technology-channel/</a><br>
Channel Partners Conference &amp; Expo Main Site: <a href="https://channelpartnersconference.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://channelpartnersconference.com/</a><br>
Channel Partners Sponsor &amp; Exhibit Opportunities: <a href="https://channelpartnersconference.com/why-exhibit/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://channelpartnersconference.com/why-exhibit/</a><br>
Cvent - 47 Trade Show Statistics Shaping 2025 and Beyond: <a href="https://www.cvent.com/en/blog/events/trade-show-statistics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.cvent.com/en/blog/events/trade-show-statistics</a><br>
Giant Printing - 2025 Trade Show Statistics: <a href="https://giantprinting.com/trade-show-statistics/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://giantprinting.com/trade-show-statistics/</a><br>
Trade Show Labs - 150+ Trade Show Statistics for 2026: <a href="https://www.tradeshowlabs.com/blog/trade-show-stats" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.tradeshowlabs.com/blog/trade-show-stats</a><br>
Telarus Partner Summit 2025 Recap: <a href="https://www.telarus.com/news/technology-advisors-take-center-stage-at-telarus-partner-summit-2025/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.telarus.com/news/technology-advisors-take-center-stage-at-telarus-partner-summit-2025/</a><br>
SIPPIO - Telarus Partner Summit 2025: <a href="https://www.sippio.io/event/telarus-partner-summit-2025/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.sippio.io/event/telarus-partner-summit-2025/</a><br>
CBTS - AVANT Special Forces Summit 2025: <a href="https://www.cbts.com/events/avant-special-forces-summit-sept-15-18-2025/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.cbts.com/events/avant-special-forces-summit-sept-15-18-2025/</a><br>
Channel Dive - Top Channel Conferences in 2026: <a href="https://www.channeldive.com/news/top-channel-partner-conferences-2026/806165/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.channeldive.com/news/top-channel-partner-conferences-2026/806165/</a><br>
Intelligent Tech Channels - What Do Channel Partners Really Want From Vendors in 2026: <a href="https://www.intelligenttechchannels.com/2025/12/12/what-do-channel-partners-really-want-from-vendors-in-2026/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.intelligenttechchannels.com/2025/12/12/what-do-channel-partners-really-want-from-vendors-in-2026/</a></p>]]>
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  <title>How to Spot a Bad Phone Provider in Under 2 Minutes</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 17:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Brian Nichols</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Most buyers don’t realize they purchased a support problem until after onboarding starts - these two pre-sign questions force vendors to show their true support model and their real fees.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Before you sign anything for phones, UCaaS, or contact center - you need to know this:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When it breaks, who actually picks up the phone?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this CX Without the BS - Quick Hit, I walk through the fastest way to spot a “support problem” before you’re stuck in ticket hell, porting delays, and finger-pointing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here are the two questions to copy/paste into an email to every vendor you’re considering:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I need help, who do I call - and how fast do I get a real human?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If my bill comes in higher than the quote, what fees do you add that aren’t in the per-user price?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If they answer clearly and directly - good sign.&lt;br&gt;
If they dodge - you just saved yourself a multi-year headache. &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Before you sign anything for phones, UCaaS, or contact center - you need to know this:</p>

<p>When it breaks, who actually picks up the phone?</p>

<p>In this CX Without the BS - Quick Hit, I walk through the fastest way to spot a “support problem” before you’re stuck in ticket hell, porting delays, and finger-pointing.</p>

<p>Here are the two questions to copy/paste into an email to every vendor you’re considering:</p>

<p>When I need help, who do I call - and how fast do I get a real human?</p>

<p>If my bill comes in higher than the quote, what fees do you add that aren’t in the per-user price?</p>

<p>If they answer clearly and directly - good sign.<br>
If they dodge - you just saved yourself a multi-year headache.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Before you sign anything for phones, UCaaS, or contact center - you need to know this:</p>

<p>When it breaks, who actually picks up the phone?</p>

<p>In this CX Without the BS - Quick Hit, I walk through the fastest way to spot a “support problem” before you’re stuck in ticket hell, porting delays, and finger-pointing.</p>

<p>Here are the two questions to copy/paste into an email to every vendor you’re considering:</p>

<p>When I need help, who do I call - and how fast do I get a real human?</p>

<p>If my bill comes in higher than the quote, what fees do you add that aren’t in the per-user price?</p>

<p>If they answer clearly and directly - good sign.<br>
If they dodge - you just saved yourself a multi-year headache.</p>]]>
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  <title>Why UCaaS Quotes NEVER Match the Bill</title>
  <link>https://cswithoutthebs.fireside.fm/why-ucaas-quotes-never-match-the-bill</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Brian Nichols</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Why do UCaaS quotes never match the bill? In this episode of CX Without the BS, Brian Nichols and Stephen Howard break down the pricing games, broken incentives, and quiet BS that keep customer experience stuck.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>48:38</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Why do phone system quotes never match the bill, and why does everyone just accept it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you have ever signed a contract that felt great on day one and confusing on month two, this episode is going to hit a nerve. Brian Nichols digs into why unified communications feels broken, why customers keep getting talked past instead of listened to, and why the industry keeps selling shiny features instead of fixing real problems.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this episode of CX Without the BS, Brian is joined by Stephen Howard to pull apart the biggest lies in UCaaS, how mergers quietly wreck customer experience, and why transparency is the one thing vendors keep avoiding. This is a real-world conversation about trust, incentives, and what happens when companies stop treating customers like adults. No buzzwords. No fluff. Just the uncomfortable truth most vendors hope you never question. &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Why do phone system quotes never match the bill, and why does everyone just accept it?</p>

<p>If you have ever signed a contract that felt great on day one and confusing on month two, this episode is going to hit a nerve. Brian Nichols digs into why unified communications feels broken, why customers keep getting talked past instead of listened to, and why the industry keeps selling shiny features instead of fixing real problems.</p>

<p>In this episode of CX Without the BS, Brian is joined by Stephen Howard to pull apart the biggest lies in UCaaS, how mergers quietly wreck customer experience, and why transparency is the one thing vendors keep avoiding. This is a real-world conversation about trust, incentives, and what happens when companies stop treating customers like adults. No buzzwords. No fluff. Just the uncomfortable truth most vendors hope you never question.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Why do phone system quotes never match the bill, and why does everyone just accept it?</p>

<p>If you have ever signed a contract that felt great on day one and confusing on month two, this episode is going to hit a nerve. Brian Nichols digs into why unified communications feels broken, why customers keep getting talked past instead of listened to, and why the industry keeps selling shiny features instead of fixing real problems.</p>

<p>In this episode of CX Without the BS, Brian is joined by Stephen Howard to pull apart the biggest lies in UCaaS, how mergers quietly wreck customer experience, and why transparency is the one thing vendors keep avoiding. This is a real-world conversation about trust, incentives, and what happens when companies stop treating customers like adults. No buzzwords. No fluff. Just the uncomfortable truth most vendors hope you never question.</p>]]>
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  <title>How Do I Fix Bad Customer Service at My Business?</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 17:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Brian Nichols</author>
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  <itunes:author>Brian Nichols</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Is AI fixing CX or just getting in the way? In this no-BS episode, we show how to use AI where it helps, bring humans back where it matters, ditch vanity metrics, and fix the basics that win loyalty.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>52:01</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Is AI really fixing customer service... or is it making everything harder? What if the real secret to great CX isn’t a shiny tool, but simple, human-first basics done right? In this no-BS episode, we pull back the curtain on today’s most hyped claims and ask the questions nobody else will. If you’ve ever yelled “agent!” at a chatbot, this is your episode.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We break down the hype around AI in CX and show where it helps — and where it falls flat. You’ll hear the clear difference between “AI as a helper” and “AI as a wall,” plus the fastest ways to stop bots from ruining your brand.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then we get real about the human touch. Why are customers begging to talk to a person again? We map the moments where empathy beats automation and how to build a clean handoff from bot to human without the headache.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We also expose the silent killers: accidental contact centers, broken basics, and score-chasing (NPS worship) that hides real problems. You’ll learn how to swap vanity metrics for actions that move retention, referrals, and revenue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Finally, we connect the dot nobody’s talking about: happy teams create happy customers. We show the simple moves — empower, listen, remove red tape — that turn burned-out reps into loyalty machines. No buzzwords. Just what works. &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Is AI really fixing customer service... or is it making everything harder? What if the real secret to great CX isn’t a shiny tool, but simple, human-first basics done right? In this no-BS episode, we pull back the curtain on today’s most hyped claims and ask the questions nobody else will. If you’ve ever yelled “agent!” at a chatbot, this is your episode.</p>

<p>We break down the hype around AI in CX and show where it helps — and where it falls flat. You’ll hear the clear difference between “AI as a helper” and “AI as a wall,” plus the fastest ways to stop bots from ruining your brand.</p>

<p>Then we get real about the human touch. Why are customers begging to talk to a person again? We map the moments where empathy beats automation and how to build a clean handoff from bot to human without the headache.</p>

<p>We also expose the silent killers: accidental contact centers, broken basics, and score-chasing (NPS worship) that hides real problems. You’ll learn how to swap vanity metrics for actions that move retention, referrals, and revenue.</p>

<p>Finally, we connect the dot nobody’s talking about: happy teams create happy customers. We show the simple moves — empower, listen, remove red tape — that turn burned-out reps into loyalty machines. No buzzwords. Just what works.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Is AI really fixing customer service... or is it making everything harder? What if the real secret to great CX isn’t a shiny tool, but simple, human-first basics done right? In this no-BS episode, we pull back the curtain on today’s most hyped claims and ask the questions nobody else will. If you’ve ever yelled “agent!” at a chatbot, this is your episode.</p>

<p>We break down the hype around AI in CX and show where it helps — and where it falls flat. You’ll hear the clear difference between “AI as a helper” and “AI as a wall,” plus the fastest ways to stop bots from ruining your brand.</p>

<p>Then we get real about the human touch. Why are customers begging to talk to a person again? We map the moments where empathy beats automation and how to build a clean handoff from bot to human without the headache.</p>

<p>We also expose the silent killers: accidental contact centers, broken basics, and score-chasing (NPS worship) that hides real problems. You’ll learn how to swap vanity metrics for actions that move retention, referrals, and revenue.</p>

<p>Finally, we connect the dot nobody’s talking about: happy teams create happy customers. We show the simple moves — empower, listen, remove red tape — that turn burned-out reps into loyalty machines. No buzzwords. Just what works.</p>]]>
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  <title>How to Make Customers LOVE Your Call Center</title>
  <link>https://cswithoutthebs.fireside.fm/how-to-make-customers-love-your-call-center</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Brian Nichols</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Charlie Newark-French, CEO of Sharpen, discusses how practical AI and innovative solutions are transforming the contact center industry to create customer experiences that people love (or at least don't hate as much).
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  <itunes:duration>48:36</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Are you tired of the endless marketing fluff and empty promises in the CX industry?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Join us for a no-nonsense conversation on "&lt;strong&gt;CX Without the BS&lt;/strong&gt;" as we dive deep into the real issues and solutions in the contact center world. In this episode, Brian Nichols and Tom Milligan sit down with Charlie Newark-French, CEO of SharpenCX, to cut through the noise and get to the heart of what truly matters in customer experience. If you're looking for genuine insights and practical advice, this is the episode you can't afford to miss!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Charlie Newark-French brings a wealth of experience from his roles in UCaaS, CCaaS, and AI, making him the perfect guest to discuss the future of contact centers. From his early days as a venture capitalist investing in RingCentral to his leadership roles at Fuse and HyperScience, Charlie has seen it all. Now, as the CEO of SharpenCX, he's on a mission to revolutionize the industry with innovative, user-friendly AI solutions tailored for the SMB market. Discover how SharpenCX is setting new standards and why Charlie believes the contact center of tomorrow will be one that people love—or at least don't hate as much.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this episode, we tackle the big questions: &lt;strong&gt;_What does the contact center of tomorrow look like? _&lt;/strong&gt;How can AI be used effectively without falling into the trap of overhyped marketing? Charlie shares his vision for a future where contact centers are not just cost centers but valuable assets that enhance customer satisfaction and loyalty. Learn about the three key trends driving this transformation: the move to the cloud, the rise of digital channels, and the integration of automation and AI.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But it's not all tech talk. We also get personal with Charlie, exploring his journey from South London to New York City and his passion for making a real impact in the CX space. Hear firsthand how his experiences have shaped his approach to leadership and innovation. Plus, get a sneak peek into the unique culture at SharpenCX and why it's a company built on authenticity and real results, not just buzzwords.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don't miss out on this engaging and informative episode of "CX Without the BS." Whether you're a CX professional, a business leader, or just curious about the future of customer service, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways. Hit that subscribe button, ring the notification bell, and join us as we strip away the BS and get real about customer experience. &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Are you tired of the endless marketing fluff and empty promises in the CX industry?</em></strong> Join us for a no-nonsense conversation on "<strong>CX Without the BS</strong>" as we dive deep into the real issues and solutions in the contact center world. In this episode, Brian Nichols and Tom Milligan sit down with Charlie Newark-French, CEO of SharpenCX, to cut through the noise and get to the heart of what truly matters in customer experience. If you're looking for genuine insights and practical advice, this is the episode you can't afford to miss!</p>

<p>Charlie Newark-French brings a wealth of experience from his roles in UCaaS, CCaaS, and AI, making him the perfect guest to discuss the future of contact centers. From his early days as a venture capitalist investing in RingCentral to his leadership roles at Fuse and HyperScience, Charlie has seen it all. Now, as the CEO of SharpenCX, he's on a mission to revolutionize the industry with innovative, user-friendly AI solutions tailored for the SMB market. Discover how SharpenCX is setting new standards and why Charlie believes the contact center of tomorrow will be one that people love—or at least don't hate as much.</p>

<p>In this episode, we tackle the big questions: <strong>_What does the contact center of tomorrow look like? _</strong>How can AI be used effectively without falling into the trap of overhyped marketing? Charlie shares his vision for a future where contact centers are not just cost centers but valuable assets that enhance customer satisfaction and loyalty. Learn about the three key trends driving this transformation: the move to the cloud, the rise of digital channels, and the integration of automation and AI.</p>

<p>But it's not all tech talk. We also get personal with Charlie, exploring his journey from South London to New York City and his passion for making a real impact in the CX space. Hear firsthand how his experiences have shaped his approach to leadership and innovation. Plus, get a sneak peek into the unique culture at SharpenCX and why it's a company built on authenticity and real results, not just buzzwords.</p>

<p>Don't miss out on this engaging and informative episode of "CX Without the BS." Whether you're a CX professional, a business leader, or just curious about the future of customer service, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways. Hit that subscribe button, ring the notification bell, and join us as we strip away the BS and get real about customer experience.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Are you tired of the endless marketing fluff and empty promises in the CX industry?</em></strong> Join us for a no-nonsense conversation on "<strong>CX Without the BS</strong>" as we dive deep into the real issues and solutions in the contact center world. In this episode, Brian Nichols and Tom Milligan sit down with Charlie Newark-French, CEO of SharpenCX, to cut through the noise and get to the heart of what truly matters in customer experience. If you're looking for genuine insights and practical advice, this is the episode you can't afford to miss!</p>

<p>Charlie Newark-French brings a wealth of experience from his roles in UCaaS, CCaaS, and AI, making him the perfect guest to discuss the future of contact centers. From his early days as a venture capitalist investing in RingCentral to his leadership roles at Fuse and HyperScience, Charlie has seen it all. Now, as the CEO of SharpenCX, he's on a mission to revolutionize the industry with innovative, user-friendly AI solutions tailored for the SMB market. Discover how SharpenCX is setting new standards and why Charlie believes the contact center of tomorrow will be one that people love—or at least don't hate as much.</p>

<p>In this episode, we tackle the big questions: <strong>_What does the contact center of tomorrow look like? _</strong>How can AI be used effectively without falling into the trap of overhyped marketing? Charlie shares his vision for a future where contact centers are not just cost centers but valuable assets that enhance customer satisfaction and loyalty. Learn about the three key trends driving this transformation: the move to the cloud, the rise of digital channels, and the integration of automation and AI.</p>

<p>But it's not all tech talk. We also get personal with Charlie, exploring his journey from South London to New York City and his passion for making a real impact in the CX space. Hear firsthand how his experiences have shaped his approach to leadership and innovation. Plus, get a sneak peek into the unique culture at SharpenCX and why it's a company built on authenticity and real results, not just buzzwords.</p>

<p>Don't miss out on this engaging and informative episode of "CX Without the BS." Whether you're a CX professional, a business leader, or just curious about the future of customer service, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways. Hit that subscribe button, ring the notification bell, and join us as we strip away the BS and get real about customer experience.</p>]]>
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  <title>The CX Dilemma: To AI or Not to AI</title>
  <link>https://cswithoutthebs.fireside.fm/the-cx-dilemma-to-ai-or-not-to-ai</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2024 16:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Brian Nichols</author>
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  <itunes:author>Brian Nichols</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this inaugural episode of "CX Without the BS," industry veteran Michael Del Signore shares his insights on the transformative impact of COVID-19 on the customer experience (CX) industry, highlighting the importance of a human-centered approach to technology adoption and the need to separate fact from fiction in the hype surrounding AI and automation.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>44:56</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Are you tired of the BS in the CX industry? Join Tom Milligan and Brian Nichols as they cut through the noise and get real with industry experts on CX without the BS. In this inaugural episode, they sit down with Michael Del Signore, a 30-year veteran of the CX world who's worked with big names like JP Morgan Chase, MoneyGram International, and Bank of America. But what makes Michael stand out in an industry full of buzzwords and empty promises?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Discover how Michael's unique perspective, shaped by his experience on the client side, helps him navigate the ever-changing landscape of CX. From the rise of AI to the challenges of moving to the cloud, Michael shares his insights on how companies can successfully adapt to new technologies without losing sight of what really matters: the customer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But it's not all serious business on CX Without the BS. Get to know the man behind the insights as Michael shares his passion for powerlifting and bodybuilding, and learn how he balances his dedication to fitness with his commitment to his family and career.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whether you're a seasoned CX professional or just starting out in the field, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. From the importance of taking a "crawl, walk, run" approach to implementing new technologies, to the dangers of pushing AI on customers who aren't ready for it, Michael's advice is grounded in real-world experience and a deep understanding of what it takes to succeed in CX.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So grab a cup of coffee (or a protein shake, if you're feeling inspired by Michael's fitness routine) and join Tom, Brian, and Michael for an engaging, informative, and BS-free conversation about the world of CX. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don't forget to like, review, and subscribe to CX Without the BS wherever you get your podcasts, and join the conversation on LinkedIn to share your own experiences and insights on navigating the world of customer experience! &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Are you tired of the BS in the CX industry? Join Tom Milligan and Brian Nichols as they cut through the noise and get real with industry experts on CX without the BS. In this inaugural episode, they sit down with Michael Del Signore, a 30-year veteran of the CX world who's worked with big names like JP Morgan Chase, MoneyGram International, and Bank of America. But what makes Michael stand out in an industry full of buzzwords and empty promises?</p>

<p>Discover how Michael's unique perspective, shaped by his experience on the client side, helps him navigate the ever-changing landscape of CX. From the rise of AI to the challenges of moving to the cloud, Michael shares his insights on how companies can successfully adapt to new technologies without losing sight of what really matters: the customer.</p>

<p>But it's not all serious business on CX Without the BS. Get to know the man behind the insights as Michael shares his passion for powerlifting and bodybuilding, and learn how he balances his dedication to fitness with his commitment to his family and career.</p>

<p>Whether you're a seasoned CX professional or just starting out in the field, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. From the importance of taking a "crawl, walk, run" approach to implementing new technologies, to the dangers of pushing AI on customers who aren't ready for it, Michael's advice is grounded in real-world experience and a deep understanding of what it takes to succeed in CX.</p>

<p>So grab a cup of coffee (or a protein shake, if you're feeling inspired by Michael's fitness routine) and join Tom, Brian, and Michael for an engaging, informative, and BS-free conversation about the world of CX. </p>

<p>Don't forget to like, review, and subscribe to CX Without the BS wherever you get your podcasts, and join the conversation on LinkedIn to share your own experiences and insights on navigating the world of customer experience!</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Are you tired of the BS in the CX industry? Join Tom Milligan and Brian Nichols as they cut through the noise and get real with industry experts on CX without the BS. In this inaugural episode, they sit down with Michael Del Signore, a 30-year veteran of the CX world who's worked with big names like JP Morgan Chase, MoneyGram International, and Bank of America. But what makes Michael stand out in an industry full of buzzwords and empty promises?</p>

<p>Discover how Michael's unique perspective, shaped by his experience on the client side, helps him navigate the ever-changing landscape of CX. From the rise of AI to the challenges of moving to the cloud, Michael shares his insights on how companies can successfully adapt to new technologies without losing sight of what really matters: the customer.</p>

<p>But it's not all serious business on CX Without the BS. Get to know the man behind the insights as Michael shares his passion for powerlifting and bodybuilding, and learn how he balances his dedication to fitness with his commitment to his family and career.</p>

<p>Whether you're a seasoned CX professional or just starting out in the field, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. From the importance of taking a "crawl, walk, run" approach to implementing new technologies, to the dangers of pushing AI on customers who aren't ready for it, Michael's advice is grounded in real-world experience and a deep understanding of what it takes to succeed in CX.</p>

<p>So grab a cup of coffee (or a protein shake, if you're feeling inspired by Michael's fitness routine) and join Tom, Brian, and Michael for an engaging, informative, and BS-free conversation about the world of CX. </p>

<p>Don't forget to like, review, and subscribe to CX Without the BS wherever you get your podcasts, and join the conversation on LinkedIn to share your own experiences and insights on navigating the world of customer experience!</p>]]>
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